<html><head><style type="text/css"><!-- DIV {margin:0px;} --></style></head><body><div style="font-family:verdana,helvetica,sans-serif;font-size:10pt">Oh ok crackpot joe - the police should have the handcuf on herman already and he is <br>in prison then, good.<br><br>But wait just for a minute - he isnt in the police station? Oh my my - why could this be?<br><br>Maybe just that all of the links the John posted with the truth about crackpott joe shows him<br>to be a crazy lier and that, yes - his proofs about so-called stealing are all pretend media <br>stories that he makes to sound like the new york Times wrote them, when they are all fictionality. <br><br>So, its not so much how the people joe claims are telling falsly, its more that they didnt say<br>all of those items and joe is lying about them saying stuff or more likely he is mispresenting<br>their statement and when you go to talk to them, they would be like the German kid who says<br>"who is
this person and why did he attack after me? - I never heard from him or did things to<br>him before" and so did the confused head master of the high school.<br><br>So joe, get these ficticional persons (or their stories are made in your head only) to post right on<br>the e-mail listings right here and give testamony in person. Because, joe, you know in the court rooms<br>what you have here so far is called here-say evidance and the judge will get very mad and not<br>permit this non sense. Its so funny that these peoples seem to have lost their voice and are<br>like little helpless babes who cant speak for themselves - are they mice or man? (Hint, they <br>dont exist or have no ideas how you misuse their reputations to further your slandering). <br><br>So joe, where are this Henk and Erik guys and why don't THEY ever complain loud about stealing<br>from them? Did they even call the police in Netherlands to complain. And who can think that
its<br>true that police will ignore so many torrints of calls from people claiming that herman is stealing<br>left and right all over Holland and such? That so non realstic and so conveenient for your story<br>but reality speaks of the opposite and most people have opposite common sense and know what<br>you are, but in closing, just in case they didn't get all of the links, I'll put them back here<br>from Johns post - people REALLY NEED to read up on this data to know what joe has committed<br>in the years ago.<br><br>Thoms<br><br>IMPORTANT LINKS - YOU MUST ALL STUDY THESE - PLEASE FOR YOUR OWN INFORMATION !!!!<br><br><div><font size="2" face="Arial"><a rel="nofollow" target="_blank" href="http://gnso.icann.org/mailing-lists/archives/ga-200709/msg03817.html"><span class="yshortcuts" id="lw_1272261448_1">http://gnso.icann.org/mailing-lists/archives/ga-200709/msg03817.html</span></a></font></div>
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"Smit, Henk" <hjm.smit@chello.nl>; Eric MacIver <ericmaciver@gmail.com>; Eric MacIver <maciver@madmojo.com><br><b><span style="font-weight: bold;">Sent:</span></b> Sun, April 25, 2010 9:07:09 PM<br><b><span style="font-weight: bold;">Subject:</span></b> Re: [ga] Tweeting twits tweet away - update on Palmer Baptista twitter war<br></font><br>
<meta http-equiv="x-dns-prefetch-control" content="off">commentary below ....<br><br><div class="gmail_quote">On Sun, Apr 25, 2010 at 8:29 PM, John Palmer <span dir="ltr"><<a rel="nofollow" ymailto="mailto:jpalmer@american-webmasters.net" target="_blank" href="mailto:jpalmer@american-webmasters.net">jpalmer@american-webmasters.net</a>></span> wrote:<br>
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<div><font size="2" face="Arial">Why is Henk saying this? Because he is lying.
Plain and simple. </font></div></div></blockquote><div><br>Ok - let do some score keeping here. The tally to date is as follows ...<br><br>According to you Henk Smit and Martijn Burger are lying. The principle of the High School in Germany you guys are defrauding according to you is confused. What about Eric MacIver is he lying too? He has already confirmed he was defrauded of his TLDs.<br>
<br>It seems all the people in the TLDA/INAIC scam claim victims of the scam are lying. I think there's only one person here John who is lying. And thats not me or Henk or Martijn or Eric. <br> </div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="border-left: 1px solid rgb(204, 204, 204); margin: 0pt 0pt 0pt 0.8ex; padding-left: 1ex;">
<div><div><font size="2" face="Arial">Or alternatively, he never said this</font></div>
<div><font size="2" face="Arial">and you made up or forged e-mail from someone by
that name, which you have been known to do in </font></div>
<div><font size="2" face="Arial">the past. </font></div></div></blockquote><div><br>Why don't you pick up the phone and call him. Send me a private email and I'll send you his vcard. I know you won't do that. A good scammer never follows up with the victims.<br>
<br><br> </div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="border-left: 1px solid rgb(204, 204, 204); margin: 0pt 0pt 0pt 0.8ex; padding-left: 1ex;"><div><div><font size="2" face="Arial">I never stole any TLD </font><font size="2" face="Arial">from anyone nor particpated in any such thing. </font></div>
</div></blockquote><div><br>Yes you have. You are a root operator to INAIC and one of it's chief apologist and evangelist and have participated in the sale of stolen TLDs from Henk Smit and Eric MacIver.<br> <br> </div>
<blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="border-left: 1px solid rgb(204, 204, 204); margin: 0pt 0pt 0pt 0.8ex; padding-left: 1ex;"><div><div><font size="2" face="Arial">ICANN is the
only one that</font></div>
<div><font size="2" face="Arial">stole a TLD (.BIZ) and is planning on the biggest
TLD heist ever, </font></div></div></blockquote><div><br>The reason why ICANN stole that TLD is because the lame duck core at the TLDA - ie the current trailer park boys - never got off their asses and put some effort into organizing the community. Why do you think I supported Xennt in NewRoot and INAIC. You guys at the TLDA have great mouthpieces - but you have never produced anything in your entire existence since 1999 when you tried to be a constituency of ICANN.<br>
</div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="border-left: 1px solid rgb(204, 204, 204); margin: 0pt 0pt 0pt 0.8ex; padding-left: 1ex;"><div><div><font size="2" face="Arial">and thanks to your actions in 2005, they</font></div>
<div><font size="2" face="Arial">have carte blanche to do so.</font></div></div></blockquote><div><br>Incorrect. My actions in 2005 closed the show. I was deceived ... my ideas corrupted ... and the curtain came down with a bang.<br>
<br>I disagree with you that had I turned my back on allowing Xennt to be the sole member in INAIC ... and if I had overlooked the 100,000 euro more or less stolen by Herman and Marcel Bor an employee of UNIDT ... and if I ignored all the other irregularities there is a slim though very unlikely chance a corrupt system like INAIC could of beaten ICANN.<br>
<br>Eventually the story would of gotten out - people were investigating in Government positions - including Turkey.<br><br>ICANN insiders knew there was something stinky about your INAIC root by the time they were shitting themselves when we took over resolution for Equant, SITA & Tiscali (i.e. most of Europe). But when we took over Turkey .. the sparks started to fly ... the shit hit the fan ... and people in Government positions were asking the question ... why is the Turkish Internet run by an ex felon?<br>
<br>I would be asking the same if I were in their shoes.<br><br>So I'm very glad I brought down the INAIC scam. I saved a lot of potential victims from becoming victims .. and I ended my INAIC experiment with a bang - just like it started.<br>
<br>John ... I will never allow my name to be associated with a fraud. It was my baby and rightfully mine to kill.<br><br>Now with the courtesy of this response I ask you on behalf of my TLD Holders ... can they expect a refund from you and all the others who participated in this fraud of selling them TLDs that were stolen?<br>
<br><br></div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="border-left: 1px solid rgb(204, 204, 204); margin: 0pt 0pt 0pt 0.8ex; padding-left: 1ex;"><div><br><div><font size="2" face="Arial">I am done with this thread for now (I promise), but
if Joe starts coughing up</font></div>
<div><font size="2" face="Arial">another fact-challenged hairball, I'll have to come
back to clean up the record</font></div>
<div><font size="2" face="Arial">with factful Lysol.</font></div></div></blockquote><div><br>Fine I'm not going away .. this is the John Palmer accountability forum.<br><br>As for your promise. You have made that promise before and not kept it.<br>
<br>And feel free to use any Lysol you wish. But while your using that Lysol - why not point it at yourself and give us some facts on this claim from Henk Smit his TLDs and those of Nameslinger were stolen.<br> </div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="border-left: 1px solid rgb(204, 204, 204); margin: 0pt 0pt 0pt 0.8ex; padding-left: 1ex;">
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<div><font size="2" face="Arial">PS: No Joe, I won't take yout ARIN-PPML
bait.</font></div></div></blockquote><div><br>I was under the impression you were baiting me. Thats why I distanced myself as much as possible from having anything to do with you therefore providing you with an even bigger bate to nibble on. The fact your refusing the nibble shows me your undergoing a learning curve and being less obsessive in your behavior towards me.<br>
<br>You have to ask the TLDA what happened. Why were the TLDs stolen ... why have they done nothing. And is there not a conflict of interest here. Everyone in control of the TLDA participated at one time or another as a principle of INAIC.<br>
<br>I have so many questions John ...<br><br>cheers<br>joe baptista<br><br> </div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="border-left: 1px solid rgb(204, 204, 204); margin: 0pt 0pt 0pt 0.8ex; padding-left: 1ex;"><div>
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<div><font size="2" face="Arial">Cheers,</font></div>
<div><font size="2" face="Arial">John</font></div><div><div></div><div class="h5">
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<b>From:</b>
<a rel="nofollow" title="baptista@publicroot.org" ymailto="mailto:baptista@publicroot.org" target="_blank" href="mailto:baptista@publicroot.org">Joe
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<div style="font-family: arial; font-style: normal; font-variant: normal; font-weight: normal; font-size: 10pt; line-height: normal; font-size-adjust: none; font-stretch: normal;"><b>To:</b> <a rel="nofollow" title="ga@gnso.icann.org" ymailto="mailto:ga@gnso.icann.org+%3E%3E+GA" target="_blank" href="mailto:ga@gnso.icann.org+%3E%3E+GA">ga@gnso.icann.org >> GA</a> </div>
<div style="font-family: arial; font-style: normal; font-variant: normal; font-weight: normal; font-size: 10pt; line-height: normal; font-size-adjust: none; font-stretch: normal;"><b>Sent:</b> Sunday, April 25, 2010 7:07
PM</div>
<div style="font-family: arial; font-style: normal; font-variant: normal; font-weight: normal; font-size: 10pt; line-height: normal; font-size-adjust: none; font-stretch: normal;"><b>Subject:</b> [ga] Tweeting twits tweet away -
update on Palmer Baptista twitter war</div>
<div><br></div><br><span>Well since John Palmer is incapable of answering any of the
questions posed to him - especially the claims of theft from Henk Smit - I
will instead update you on the Twitter war Mr. Palmer is having with me. It's
going slow. The last official tweet I got from John seemed like a plea from
him to me to let him get in the last word. Check it out <a target="_blank" href="http://twitter.com/Web_Lion/status/12794641835">http://twitter.com/Web_Lion/status/12794641835</a></span><br><br>When
I'm dead John you can have the last word on this. For now were all waiting for
you to tell us - why is Henk Smit claiming you guys stole his
TLDs?<br><br><span>However on a brighter note and as I predicted yesterday my robot
Lisa <a target="_blank" href="http://bit.ly/cQdh2y">http://bit.ly/cQdh2y</a> now has more
followers then Palmer's Web_Lion <a target="_blank" href="http://bit.ly/91lovb">http://bit.ly/91lovb</a> which proves my point
that big tits always have an advantage over psychotic behavior. I think John
would agree.</span><br><br>regards<br>joe baptista<br></blockquote></div></div></div>
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